Man Arrested for Being Armed at Missouri Walmart. Was he wrong?

On the afternoon on August 8th, 2019 Dmitriy N. Andreychenko walked from the parking lot into a Walmart in Springfield Missouri, while wearing a tactical vest with magazine pouches, and an AR style rifle attached to a sling hanging barrel down in front of him. He recorded himself on his own cellphone walking through the store, while pushing a shopping cart.

News reports from various sources say that people seeing this began to panic and run from the store. The store manager pulled the fire alarm in an attempt to get people to leave the store itself. After the alarm was pulled Dmitriy N. Andreychenko left the store and was confronted by a armed citizen who held him at gun point until police arrived and took him into custody.

from Green County Jail

On August 9th the County Prosecutor charged Dmitriy N. Andreychenko with felony for making a “terrorist threat”:

Greene County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Patterson announces that Dimitriy N. Andreychenko, 20 years old, of Springfield, Missouri, has been charged today with making a terrorist threat in the second degree for events which occurred yesterday, August 8, 2019, at the Walmart Neighborhood Market located at 3150 W. Republic St., Springfield, Missouri.

You can read the entire Press Release and charging document here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/165aTb5POOhehqqrSEjfWiyu_jDwi7iV8/view

Now this of course happened just after the El Paso Texas Walmart mass murder. And Dmitriy N. Andreychenko told police investigators that he was arming himself because he wanted to be safe at the Walmart. Maybe in fear of a copy cat mass murderer, or like he also said, to see if Walmart honored his 2nd Amendment right.

Now this is where things get a bit sticky for many people. What this young man did is legal in Missouri. The following is from USCCA law summary for Missouri: “Open carry and concealed carry are legal in Missouri for anyone 19 years or older who can legally possess a firearm, with or without a concealed carry permit (CCP). However local authorities, such as the city of Blair, can restrict open carry, but a concealed carry permit holder is not restricted from open carry in any location where concealed carry is permitted.”

Now is where I would like the input from the firearms community and especially those who are staunch supporters of the 2nd Amendment. While what this man did was legal and within his rights, was it something that you support or would have done yourself? Was it within his rights, but poor timing? Was he just stupid? Was he well within his rights and should have been left alone? Did the previous mass murder in another state and location warrant the reaction that he got from the Walmart in Missouri?

I have to be honest that I am still trying to figure out how I feel about this one. First what he did was legal in his state. Plus I support the 2nd Amendment. How would I have reacted had I seen this happening? Should he have been charged with a felony like he was? Should the “good citizen” who held him at gun point be charged for doing so since no crime was being committed?

This event also strikes up a really good topic of conversation that I have seen talked about before and needs discussion again. While something may be legal and you may be entitled to do it at the time and place, is it a good idea to do so? Can doing something that is within your rights and legal be a poor idea?

I honestly am torn by this one. On one hand I think that if it is legal and within your rights, you should be allowed to do it without fear of arrest of reprisal from others. On the other hand I do not want to cause others to panic out of ignorance or fear.

So I ask you, the reader what do you think? What do you think should have happened or should happen to this young man?

Personally I do not think the charge they used will stand up in court and think charges will either be dropped before trial or he will be found not guilty. But then again stranger things have happened. Would I have done what he did? No of course not, I do not want to cause people to panic out of ignorance, nor do I want to chance being shot by another armed citizen or police officer out of mistake. But if I was trying to prove a point and raise public awareness I might do something like it in Florida by taking part in a open carry fishing march or such.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? Stupid thing to do? Poor Timing? Well within his rights and OK to do so? What are your thoughts?

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Florida Legislators let the law abiding citizens down again. And we keep electing them.

Well I guess firearms were not a very popular topic in the Florida Legislature this year (or any year for that matter). While some of these were very negative and dangerous bills for firearms owners some were positive. It saddens me greatly that the House and Senate and Gov. are all one party and they can’t get anything done. Kind like our Federal Govt. Was before this last election. Remember this come next election cycle. Those who did nothing to protect or restore your rights. 
But hey at least Felons get to vote!

SB 500 (2019) Gun Safety
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00500
SENATE – Died in Criminal Justice

CS/SB 598 (2019) Firearms
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00598
SENATE – Died in Criminal Justice

SB 108 (2019) Regulation of Concealed Weapons Licenses
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00108
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 170 (2019) Federal Immigration Enforcement
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00170
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 364 (2019) Prohibited Places for Weapons and Firearms
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00364
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

HB 403, 1st Eng. (2019) Safety of Religious Institutions
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00403
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 466 (2019) Assault Weapons and Large-capacity Magazines
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00466
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 468 (2019) Firearms
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00468
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 654 (2019) Transfers of Firearms
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00654
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 752 (2019) Concealed Weapons and Firearms
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00752
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 764 (2019) Home Safety
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00764
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 922 (2019) Discharging Firearms in Public or on Residential Property
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00922
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 956 (2019) Three-dimensional Printed Firearms
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00956
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 996 (2019) Possession of Firearms on School Property
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00996
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 1532 (2019) Local Regulation of Firearms and Ammunition
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/01532
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

SB 1718 (2019) Sale and Delivery of Firearms
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/01718
SENATE – Died in Judiciary

So what is anything positive pass? Nope… time for new tactics I think by the people that support the Constitution and the rights of citizens as protected by the Constitution of the United States of America. Maybe time to use the right to peacefully assemble and maybe also to exercise our rights as much as can be done under the current system. Not sure yet, but will think about it and get back to you all. 😉 The least we can do IS VOTE OUT EVERY legislator that could not get things passed with both the HOUSE and SENATE and Governorship in one party! Is there more going on? Of course.

LEGISLATIVE ALERT! OUR RIGHTS NEED YOUR VOICE! BAD BILL ALERT!

Florida HB 197  – Concealed Weapons and Firearms – Prohibits concealed weapon or firearm licensee from openly carrying a handgun or carrying concealed weapon or firearm into any child care facility.

Sometimes it is just as important opposing bad Bills as it is to support the good ones!

HB 197 – has been assigned to committees for hearing and review. Yesterday afternoon (01/16/2017) HB 197 – Referred to Criminal Justice Subcommittee; Children, Families and Seniors Subcommittee; Judiciary Committee. While it has not been scheduled for any hearings yet, if you are a firearms rights and Constitutional supporter you should support this Bill. It is time to make your voices heard. This Bill needs to be voted down. It is just one more infringement on your rights!

Think of the parent going to pick up their child at a daycare and they are a lawful concealed carry license holder. They must disarm before doing so! Florida Law defines “Child care facility” as: “Child care facility” includes any child care center or child care arrangement which provides childcare for more than five children unrelated to the operator and which receives a payment, fee, or grant for any of the children receiving care, wherever operated, and whether or not operated for profit.” Notice it does not say licensed! A babysitter with more than 5 kids (private home) would be included. This is just one more attempt to limit law abiding citizens from protecting their families and children!

The Chairs of each committee decide what Bills get heard, and they can stop a Bill dead in its tracks by simply ignoring it. If they do not take it up for hearing, it dies a quiet death. We want this Bill to be opposed or voted down and we need to make sure they know it has opposition from the law-abiding firearms owners of Florida.

Please take a few minutes in the next couple of days to email or call the Chair of the Criminal Justice Subcommittee, Rep. James “J.W.” Grant and Vice Chair Rep. Stan McClain and tell them to OPPOSE the Bill and want it voted down in committee if it’s heard! They have a meeting scheduled Jan 23rd, 2019 but the Bill is not on the agenda yet.

Emails:

James “J.W.” Grant – james.grant@myfloridahouse.gov   Twitter: @JamesGrantFl, Phone: (850) 717-5064

Stan McClain – stan.mcclain@myfloridahouse.gov  Twitter: @RepMcClain, Phone: (850) 717-5023

While many of us feel very strongly about the Gun Free Zone/ Unarmed Victim Zone issues, this Bill would just create more, please be respectful and concise when emailing to them. We want them to be on our side, not against it.

In the Subject line, please include “Please OPPOSE HB 197!” as part of your subject.

If you happen to be on Twitter I also use it at @CmdrCW, but I may not be as tolerant of the anti-rights people there as I am here. 😉  

FLORIDA LEGISLATIVE ALERT! OUR RIGHTS NEED YOUR VOICE!

HB 6007  – Licenses to Carry Concealed Weapons or Firearms. Removes provision prohibiting concealed carry licensees from openly carrying a handgun or carrying concealed weapon or firearm into college or university facility.

HB 6007 – Sometimes called “Campus Carry”, has been assigned to committees for hearing and review. Yesterday afternoon (01/16/2017) HB 6007 – Referred to Criminal Justice Subcommittee; Higher Education and Career Readiness Subcommittee, and Judiciary Committee. While it has not been scheduled for any hearings yet, if you are a firearms rights and Constitutional supporter you should support this Bill. It is time to make your voices heard. This Bill needs to be scheduled for hearings and a committee vote.

The Chairs of each committee decide what Bills get heard, and they can stop a Bill dead in its tracks by simply ignoring it. If they do not take it up for hearing, it dies a quiet death. We want this Bill to be heard and we need to make sure they know it has support from the law-abiding firearms owners of Florida.

Please take a few minutes in the next couple of days to email or call the Chair of the Criminal Justice Subcommittee, Rep. James “J.W.” Grant and Vice Chair Rep. Stan McClain and tell them to put the Bill up for hearing and a vote and that you, a law-abiding citizen of Florida support it! They have a meeting scheduled Jan 23rd, 2019 but the Bill is not on the agenda yet. Let’s see if we can get that changed!

Emails: James “J.W.” Grant – james.grant@myfloridahouse.gov   Twitter: @JamesGrantFl

                                Phone: (850) 717-5064

                Stan McClain – stan.mcclain@myfloridahouse.gov  Twitter: @RepMcClain

                                Phone: (850) 717-5023

While many of us feel very strongly about the Gun Free Zone/ Unarmed Victim Zone issues this Bill would fix, please be respectful and concise when emailing to them. We want them to be on our side, not against it.

In the Subject line, please include “Support HB 6007” as part of your subject.

If you happen to be on Twitter I also use it at @CmdrCW, but I may not be as tolerant of the anti-rights people there as I am here. 😉  

Florida House Bill 175, Needs a Fair Hearing!

FLORIDA LEGISLATIVE ALERT! OUR RIGHTS NEED YOUR VOICE!

Fla House Bill 175 (HB 175) – Repealing provision of Chapter 790 relating to seizure of firearms because of disability, repealing the 21-year-old age limit for purchase of firearms (including rifles), defining “handgun” and repealing the waiting period for purchase of long guns, repealing the “bump fire stock ban, and repeals the “risk protection orders” seizure of firearms.

HB 175 has been assigned to committees for hearing and review. Yesterday afternoon (01/16/2017) HB 175 by Rep. Hill and Sabatini was referred to the following committees: Criminal Justice Subcommittee, Justice Appropriations Subcommittee, Judiciary Committee. While it has not been scheduled for any hearings yet, if you are a firearms rights and Constitutional supporter you should support this Bill. It is time to make your voices heard. This Bill needs to be scheduled for hearings and a committee vote.

The Chairs of each committee decide what Bills get heard, and they can stop a Bill dead in its tracks by simply ignoring it. If they do not take it up for hearing, it dies a quiet death. We want this Bill to be heard and we need to make sure they know it has support from the law-abiding firearms owners of Florida.

Please take a few minutes in the next couple of days to email or call the Chair of the Criminal Justice Subcommittee, Rep. James “J.W.” Grant and Vice Chair Rep. Stan McClain and tell them to put the Bill up for hearing and a vote and that you, a law-abiding citizen of Florida support it! They have a meeting scheduled Jan 23rd, 2019 but the Bill is not on the agenda yet. Let’s see if we can get that changed!

Emails: James “J.W.” Grant – james.grant@myfloridahouse.gov  

Twitter: @JamesGrantFl, Phone: (850) 717-5064

                Stan McClain – stan.mcclain@myfloridahouse.gov  Twitter: @RepMcClain, Phone: (850) 717-5023

While many of us feel very strongly about the Unconstitutional issues this Bill would fix, please be respectful and concise when emailing to them. We want them to be on our side, not against it.

In the Subject line, please include “Support HB 175” as part of your subject.

If you happen to be on Twitter I also use it at @CmdrCW, but I may not be as tolerant of the anti-rights people there as I am here. 😉  

Why do we “need” AR-15 rifles or any other firearm?

Recently during a very one-sided debate, I was shouted at and asked why I “needed” an AR-15 or other rifles like that. I was also told that only the police and government should have those types of firearms.

Those comments made me shiver. The fact that people who are discussing basic Constitutional rights do not know what the basis of a right is, and why we should not allow them to be restricted or removed anymore than they are.

The first question as to why I “need” an AR-15 or other firearm is one of the core reasons for the 2nd Amendment. I do not ‘need” anything. I have the “right” to peacefully and lawfully possess an AR-15 or other firearm because it’s my choice. A “right” is just that, I can exercise it if I want to or not. Just like I can exercise my right to free speech or not. I can choose to be silent if I do not want to use that right, but if I do, as I am here, then there is nothing that should stop me if I am not harming anyone. Just as my right to own firearms is just that, my right, and should not be restricted if I am not harming anyone unlawfully. That’s why it’s a right and not a “need”.

And when they asked why I thought I should have them and not just the police and government, I almost fell out of my chair. Did they not know basic history? Our forefathers went to war to divest themselves of a government that was trying to do just that, remove arms from the citizens to make ruling over them easier. Of the numerous countries where the removal of the ability of the citizens to defend themselves, especially against a government that became tyrannical, dictatorial or worse, resulted in millions dying at the hands of that very government should have been enough. Then there is the minor issue of the police only having the guns. Having been one for 35 years, I am here to tell you police cannot protect you all the time. You are not able to rely on the few police officers out there that might just be lucky enough to be around the corner and arrive in the nick of time to save you. And the minor issue that the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled it is not the duty of the police to protect you as an individual. So, if not theirs than who’s is it? It’s yours!

So when you ask why does someone need an Ar-15, we don’t need them. We have the right to have them. We don’t need them, unless of course we do to defend our family or country, from the government itself. Then it may be to late since some want them all removed because of the actions of a few murderers. And please don’t use that old worn out, you can never defeat the US Military with AR-15’s. I don’t expect a lot of military folks would go along with orders to attack or harm US Citizens. But that just is coming form a U.S. Army veteran. Had I been ordered to do so I would have simply refused.

So good luck with your arguments we don’t need these firearms. No we have the right to have them and until such a time as that right is repealed (that’s another topic) you have no right to tell me, a law abiding U.S. Citizen, that I don’t. As a side note, of the Bill of Rights, which ones have the words “shall not be infringed” in them? And why? Maybe because our forefathers had seen just that, a government trying to infringe on the citizens it was supposed to serve not rule?

Is Requiring a Fee to Exercise a Right Constitutional?

Regardless of which political party you belong, I think we can probably all agree that requiring a fee to exercise a right is just wrong, discriminatory, and unconstitutional. Let’s take voting for instance. We all can agree being able to vote is a right. The right to vote is mentioned five times in the U.S. Constitution. The Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments speak of voting specifically. So it’s agreed that it’s a right. So what if we required a few things in order to be able to exercise it?

Well, I think that requiring someone prove who they are, and qualifying that they are a U.S. citizen, is not too much to ask. Everyone can do that regardless of economic status, and it will not prevent anyone from voting. Right? But what if we added a $100 “voting” tax? Just something to make a little extra money for the government. Not a big deal, right? What? Wait! If you add a fee to exercise a right, does that not put that right out of the reach of some people who may be economically challenged? That makes that fee discriminatory against that demographic of people. We can’t have that. H,ow can we add fees to exercising a right and make it hard or impossible for people without the means to be able to exercise that right? Can we not all agree that is not what a right should be? Can we agree that if you exclude a segment of the population it becomes discrimination?Close

As one of our founding fathers, James Madison, stated so eloquently: “The purpose of the Constitution is to restrict the majority’s ability to harm a minority.” We need to make sure that we remember that we have to take care of the rights of all the people —even those we may not agree with— but if it’s a right guaranteed by the Constitution (our highest law of the land) then we should do everything in our power to make sure we do not discriminate against any group, majority or minority.

So why do I bring this up and use the right to vote as an example? Because this is exactly what some legislators are trying to do to the Second Amendment. They want to charge an additional tax on firearms and ammunition. They want to add fees to getting a permit to own or carry a firearm (requiring a license to own a firearm is already unconstitutional in my opinion). The latest stroke of infringement is to outlaw private sales of firearms and require all sales to go through a federally-licensed firearms dealer (FFL). This would add a “transfer fee” to every purchase of a firearm. Regardless, if it was from a FFL or a private citizen. While these things are wrong on so many levels, let’s get back to the basics of a right. Making that right out of reach for any group of people.

Firearms are not cheap but you can get them fairly inexpensively if you look around. What possible way can taxing or adding a fee to firearms and firearms transactions stop any type of firearms crime? It can’t. That’s ludicrous, of course. And by adding a fee or tax to own or possess a firearm (other than the cost of the firearm itself and maybe regular sales tax) they are trying to limit the rights of all people who are of a certain demographic, in this case the very people who are most prone to crime and need the ability to defend themselves.

Many cry discrimination and racism about many things, but those that make our laws and try to restrict your rights this way are some of the biggest culprits. So a word of advice or warning to our legislators who are thinking of this way of restricting a right that all law abiding Americans should be able to exercise: You cannot tax a right out of existence; the people will not stand for it.

Folks, pay attention to your state and federal representatives and what they are trying to do or pass. Stay up to date on your state‘s legislative sessions and the bills being discussed and submitted. Most of all, make your voice heard! Regardless of what side of the aisle you are on, trying to remove rights should be a time you come together and make sure that those in positions to make laws know your feelings.

Originally published on http://www.opslens.com